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Ivor Catt, 121 Westfields, St. Albans AL3 4JR (01727 864257)

23sep96

Elizabeth Fowler,
[VIP Quaker.]

Dear Elizabeth,

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Your letter dated 31july96 is invaluable because it flushes out the evidence for the key division in the Society of Friends. First to deal with facts which, given the philosophy demonstrated in your letter, become less important. For this reason I shall include them within brackets.

(The library committee of which you were not a member at the time unanimously agreed to buy the Morgan book. You then secretly caused the chairman of the committee to abrogate the decision of her committee, without informing it. The Morgan book has not taken its place in the St. Albans P.M. library. Your reason for censoring the book was that it was too right wing. You had no proper role in the matter.) I quote from your 31july96 letter; I happen to believe that the arguments advanced by various writers like Ros Coward are worth discussing.... Friends might well wish to refuse tactfully books which advance views not in keeping with Friends' testimonies. The lack of mention of facts in your letter echoes my complaint that you and Ken Goode sandbagged the meetings to discuss my concern about censorship of facts in the Society of Friends by continually referring to opinions. This was followed by a couple of years when both you and Ken Goode refused to respond to my repeated written query as to whether you believed that facts existed. Your letter, for which I give you many thanks, enables me to reduce the key issue to a short epigram. 1

The Reconstructed Quaker;

Should the only source of facts required by Quakers to meet the exhortation, clauses 1.02 33 and 23.1 (cf the red Quaker Bible);

"Try to discern new growing points in social and economic life. Seek to understand the causes of injustice, social unrest and fear." contain obnoxious opinion, then it should be kept from Quakers. Put more succinctly, the Reconstructed Quaker has a contempt for the truth. (He probably believes that facts do not exist, and that all is opinion. He is not alone in this, being merely a creature of a widespread degenerate Philosophy of Knowledge stemming from Brussels/Solvay 1927.) Even more succinctly, the R.C. gives precedence to opinions over facts. 2

The Traditional Quaker respects facts , and believes them indispensible for Quakers. He would seek the truth from wherever it might be found.

[Christian Faith and Practice, 1925 issue, page 68; "…. The pursuit of knowledge for its own sake is a noble activity of the human spirit, … …. For all of us the pursuit of knowledge is the means of entry into the great common heritage of mankind….better able to grasp the new contributions to enlightenment…. The barriers of prejudice often make us ready to reject unfamiliar forms of truth both new and old ….." This last sentence maps exactly onto Fowler early in this letter; "…. refuse tactfully books which advance views not in keeping…." - added by I.C. feb99.] The Patricia Morgan book, "Farewell the Family?", pub. IEA jan95, is the only source of certain facts which Quakers require to fulfil the advice in clause 23.1 et seqq. Should you disagree with my characterisation of you as a Reconstructed Quaker, then it appears to me that you have the following options; 1 State that the Morgan facts have little importance for our meeting clause 23.1. 2 State that the same facts are available from another source, and if possible advise on how we can obtain those facts free from the obnoxious opinions, and so end the present disability caused by Quakers' self-imposed ignorance. 3 I would rule out the third option, towards the end of your 3sep96 letter, that you are too busy and important to communicate on these matters. Remember that you found the time to wreck the properly convened discussions of my concern about suppression of facts. In fact, use of this option would prove my point, that you do not understand the distinction between facts and views, or believe that facts do not exist and/or are unimportant. The key point is not whether the Morgan book find its way into the library by fair means or foul. The key point is whether (a) proper and/or (b) improper procedures are used with impunity to censor crucial facts. This goes far beyond the narrow remit of the Morgan facts, which is cited only as an example of how today's PC Society of Friends suffocates itself.. I believe that this issue is much more important than the christocentric/universalist divide, and would warrant schism. We cannot tolerate the gelding of the Society of Friends. My suspicion that the Reconstructed Quaker heresy finds a large majority of adherents in Friends House today does not make it orthodox, because Fox would certainly not be among them. This is not a local problem. On publication in jan95, I told Padfield in writing that the Morgan facts therein would be banned from the Quaker Universe of Discourse until around jan 2000. They remain banned from Quaker discourse today, although the Morgan name and her facts continue to figure more and more in newspapers and other media, and triggered the recent Olga Maitland disruption of legislation. In particular, this 100% censorship means that the destructive family bashing by a sexually dysfunctional Jantzen in The Friend, 3dec93, may not be moderated by the Morgan research results.

Pedigree.

When the stranger of my sons parked on a roundabout, I realised that the Highway Code did not tell him not to. Similarly, a search of our Quaker heritage will not find homily about the importance of facts. This was so obvious to Fox and the rest that they never pointed it out. It is too central to Quaker tradition. This means that should this be disputed, neither side can call on pedigree, and we may be forced into schism. The Reconstructed Quaker is merely the infiltration of twentieth century society, with its destructive contempt for facts, into the Society of Friends. Generally, I go along with the pre-C20 respect for facts, which matches my perception of Fox and Jesus, both of whom would regard contempt for facts as heresy or worse.

[feb99. I now find that the 1925 version of the Quaker's prime manual, then called "Christian Faith and Practice", is replete with much urging that Quakers search after facts; see p 64-77, a lengthy section entitled "Education". As I have said in Meeting, we are all priests, not all laity. Thus, p65; "We are dependent on our rank and file. The standard therefore must be high throughout our whole membership." This means that truth seekers like me do have tradition on their side. The presently evolving priesthood in Friends House and Quaker Journal editorial control directly opposes the guidance of the 1925 book. The removal of most of the assertions of the primacy of facts and of search for truth in the 1994 edition, will have been caused by Reconstructed Quakers getting onto the book's revision committees since 1925. They prefer to wallow in ignorant opinion, but they do not have pedigree. Thank goodness we still have clauses 1.02-33 23.01. The Bowdlerization is not yet complete. I.C. feb99.] Yours sincerely,

Ivor Catt


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